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mcgivern" has been made possible because of the hospitality we've been given and support we receive from viewers like you. thank you. >> this episode of "around the corner with john mcgivern" is made possible through funding provided in part by the greater

milwaukee foundation's ernest c. and florence m. shocke fund. >> we are in the water park capital of the world, this is wisconsin dells. capital of the world, wisconsin dells. so when we were going to meet john gurda, i thought maybe we

should meet there or downtown, because it's historic, but -- hello john gurda. what are we doing here? i thought we would meet at a water park or downtown? >> wisconsin dells is not the bike friendly place in the world.

so i had to find a place to ride my bike. we're in downtown wisconsin >> let's talk about the history of this place. >> how far back do you want to go? >> pretty far. >> let's go there.

>> in the beginning, in terms of the age of tourist attractions in wisconsin, wisconsin dells may be the oldest, because it goes back 14,000 years. >> that's like grandpa was there. >> at least. coming from the old country back

in those years. and what happened was there was an ice dam right on the side of wisconsin dells that blocked the wisconsin river, the old wisconsin river and it backed up this lake called glacial lake that covered the entire part of the state.

the size of the great lakes and utah, you could have seen it from space. one day and literally it was one day the ice melted enough for that dam to break and you had this flood of biblical proportions just rushing down and creating new channel for the

wisconsin river. so all these rock formations you see here, they were cut in a matter of days. this was almost instantaneous. think of a glacial processing as being very slow, millions of years. here this happened like snapping

a finger. >> that's quite a day. >> so this became, what you see today, back 14,000 years arc the native americans, ho chunk knew about it, the loggers knew about it. the general public did not until the mid 1800's, then there were

two guys, put wisconsin dells on the map. one was byron kilbourn, the guy from milwaukee, mayor. the main promoter of the west side of milwaukee and he built a railroad between milwaukee and the west mississippi river and chose to cross the wisconsin

river right here, so he called this element kilbourn city. so that put the place on the map. and then a guy named henry hamilton bennett began to take pictures an send them all over the country, so people began to flock here.

steam boats came up the river from the south, railroads from the south and east, you have all kinds traffic, milwaukee, chicago, st. louis, this became, perhaps, the most popular tourist destination in the entire midwest. >> it's remarkable, isn't it?

>> it's a big deal. so you had that map, and then it wasn't until after world war ii that things began to emerge as you know them today. 1946 is when the first ducks came here, 1952, tommy bartlett moved his show from chicago and first water park is 1978 and

they decided to enclose it it, polynesian resort close it had in 1989 and here we are. the press is history. >> let's talk about population. >> 5600 people in the two cities, the city of wisconsin dells and the village of lake del ton, they are twin cities,

and 11 square miles, lake del ton is on the west side of the wisconsin river, wisconsin dells is on the east, but you've got knife 600 people taking care of three million visitors during an average year. >> which is really says it all about this community as a

destination point. >> yep. >> great. that's the history. >> that is. >> of wisconsin dells. >> began in water and water is still what drives. >> i am so glad that you found a

trail that we could meet on because i was afraid for a minute. >> me too. >> it's short but beautiful. >> thanks, we'll see you. next community, see you. >> >> this is where we go in.

>> this is it. >> it just doesn't seem like you should be able to do that. >> drive a truck on the water and float. >> right. >> now we're a boat. >> we're good. >> when were these built?

>> 1942 to 1946. over 2,000 were used on d-day. they needed amphibians fast to go from the beaches to the ships, and this is what they camp up with. >> how many of these do you have? >> we have 92 in our fleet.

>> no you don't. you have 92 of these. >> yes, 60 in operation. >> that's remarkable. >> why should people come and do this? >> it's a staple of the dells. if you come to the dells, you have to do it up right.

just a great adventure, they say you just can't beat the scenery on the ducks. >> how many people are working here on a daily basis? >> we've got about 950 staff. 10, 15 years ago, for a place like chula vista to lure a career professional, it was

really hard to do. there are more career opportunities here now, it's almost a destination for the best people in the world to come and work here. >> talk about this, the beginning of water features for you hat chula vista.

>> we were kind of the pioneer of that. in 1985, we built the first indoor water slide in a hotel, in america, and from there, it kind of grew. certainly, the advent of the indoor water parks at a place like chula vista certainly make

it a year-round destination, 365 days out of the yearly it's like a small city or a small village. >> a small city that you really don't have to loaf but you hope they do. you hope they come and experience the rest of the dells as well, don't you?

>> we do. it's important to the heritage of wisconsin dells that you be able to get on a duck or be able to get on a boat ride and see what god created. it's who we are. weewee dells, so we have to preserve our number one may set.

>> we are at america's largest water park resort. the wilderness. this feels so much like a cruise ship to me. high been on a knew of them, so like people coming here, they check in hand do they ever leave, do they ever get off your

boat? >> some get off the boat but we run it like a cruise ship. that's truly what we do. there's five on-site restaurants, 12 different dining area cafeteria, quick-service restaurants, a lot of our units have full kitchens, but the idea

is you get a map of the property, there's an app that you can download to your phone, that gets you around the property, but that's the whole idea is a cruise shipment an adventure around every turn is what we say and it truly is the case at the wilderness.

600 acres is the wilderness resort, 11 knife 8 different room styles, but our major attraction is our four indoor and four outdoor water parks. >> eight water parks. >> yes, eight total. >> without a doubt, the charm of the wilderness is the fact that

we are guest exclusive, so in order to play at the wilderness, you have to stay at the wilderness, so that means only guests staying at the wilderness presort can come into the water parks. >> we're right here in the middle of h.h. bennett's 1875

studio. this is the oldest operating business in wisconsin dells. we're telling the story about bennett, the landscape photographer and his photography of the dells of the wisconsin river is what made this town famous and what started to bring

tourists here by the train load and now by the car load. >> if people are watching with the iconic images that they will see, they'll know who this man is, because you have seen these images, somewhere in your life. >> you have absolutely have, including his most famous iconic

image, which is the rock by stand ashley, and when it came out, a lot of people thought it was a fake photograph, that no one could make a photograph of a jump of stand rock. bennett accomplished it. we have his glass plates down stairs, we have 7,000 of his

glass plates. it's so different when you have walk here off the streets of the dells, where you're walking up and down past the tourist sheriff's and the fudge shops, and -- shops and the fudge shops and you're coming into this place and really stepping back a

century. >> it's been a long history. 1947, started on a side street here in the dells. the heinecke family started it, i obtained ownership of it in 19 hate 0 and just tried to continue the tradition that they have of just a nice little

friendly family place to come and bring the kids and have burgers and we're in our third generation of people coming here to have those burgers. >> how smart are you to put the grill like on the street? because you can. i walked a block and a half from

here i'm like i need a burger. >> i wish i could claim that it was my idea. i can't. it was here when i bought the place. it's the aroma, it's marketing aroma is what it is. >> that's what it is.

>> that's what we call it. >> not everybody can do that. >> the best advertising we could buy. >> we just want to have the best service and the friendliest people we can have here to help people find their way around the dells and to find the great

things to do in our area. >> i have a zeppos that you're not from -- a sense, that you're not from here. what are you from minnesota. >> not with this hack sent. come on -- accent, come on. >> you're both from jamaica. >> yes.

>> can coming to a place like this in the summer fund your education? >> for the most. mine not entirely, but it is a big help. you can do most of your tuition, your books and stuff, and then help carry you through most of

the year, but it is really a big, big help. overall, it's just wonderful. you can't lose coming here. coming here, you can't lose. coming here, it's a good time, you work, go back home, take care of stuff, so it's a win-win.

>> for everybody. >> thank you, guys. >> guess where we're at? paul bunyan's. guess what they're serving? obviously, blue ox. nice ax, man. >> you found this business. >> i was raised here.

they used to put me in a crib behind the register. or in the bakery. >> we have six children, mary and i, and they've all had their spots in here growing up, they've all grown up here with flour on them. oh, yeah.

>> they know the business. >> oh, yes. inside and out. >> how long have you been here? >> the business has been here since 1958. >> let's talk about what people can expect if they've never been here.

>> great service. their food gets served to them right away, it's fresh family tile dinner or beck -- style dinner or breakfast, everything from scratch, good food. it's real food. not food out of a box. >> another thing you're known

for is doughnuts. >> made fresh throughout the morning. people love them, and something that will always be here. >> it's the best. so when you think about wisconsin dells, you think about mocacins.

these are perfect. >> we are one of the few tribes in north america, in the united states, that are nonreservation people still living in our traditional homeland. there were tribal leaders like chief yellow thunder, who in 18 from 9, purchased 40 acres, not

too far from here actually and he became a land owner, a legal land owner, so many of his people were living on his property, and so the federal government could not forcibly premove them from his -- remove them from his property. nonreservation means that we

were not herded up, still living in our traditional homeland. the area that the creator intended for us to live in. back in 1916, two ho chunk men, actually started dancing along the river banks, as the steamers would pass by with the tourists and it became this tourist

attraction. we've been a part of this community since day one. the facility we're located at now, ho chunk gaming, wisconsin dells, this is one of our six casinos that the ho chunk nation owns and operates. this is our flagship casino,

this is our largest. it was a major contributor to the growth of the tourism industry in wisconsin dells. >> we are on the upper deck of the boat that's taking us from the upper dells, incredibly gorgeous. how long have you been doing

>> well it's been going on 40 years, so a few. i am a retired school teacher, taught the sciences in town, 37 years, and this was my summer job, that's how i accumulated so many years. >> how long is a usual tour? >> two hours.

we think the uniqueness of the canyons, the special rock formation. >> ok. we'll be landing here shortly and claire will prepare you for our landing at fish rock. >> it's just gorgeous. >> radar, our jumping german

shepherd will perform for you. the mainland at stand product is 5 1/2 feet. >> stand rock, let's talk about where we are and what happens >> this is stand rock, this is the most photographed landmark in wisconsin dells. >> really?

>> and what we just saw was the dog jumping to stand rock. >> and you wouldn't let me up >> no. actually, until 1943, we would let tourists climb up to stand rock and jump across for that and the insurance companies got wind of that and we had to let

it go to the dogs of course. >> this is the dells. this is what attracted people here to this area. some people come back after 45, 50 years and say, wow, we're so glad to see it still remains has it did. >> dairy queen, 60 years, right

here on the main street. hi, shannon, your family has it. you're adorable. yum. >> international crane foundation. the people are presuming cranes. >> absolutely. >> what happens here.

>> some of the worldest largest birds. they are a phenomenal species and all 15 cranes can be seen this is the only place in the whole world where they are all in one place. visitors can take a tour, it's a wonderful chance to take your

family out, see the cranes up close and personal, get a chance to hear them calling. >> we're talking about bringing up cranes and without imprinting them with human beings and you're kind of in charge of that. >> how do you do that?

>> we don't want the cranes to imprint on people, so we wear a costume. we're fully dressed in a white gown and we wear a puppet head on our hand. and we take the chicks out and we teach them to heat and to forage on their own and

basically survival in the wild. >> that crane has a problem. >> we'll pick up food pellets and as we find stuff in the yard, we'll see the chicks, pick you will flowers or if we find worms or grass hoppers, we'll catch those and feed them to the chicks as well.

>> and they know what to do. exactly. >> open your mouth. >> it's great to be here. let's talk about what you do and let's talk about this town. >> well, i'm the executive director of the wisconsin dells visitor and convention bureau,

i've been here almost 17 years. it was the greatest place to grow up and it's been a dream that i've been able to keep involved in the community. >> how did wisconsin dells become such a water park center of the world? >> well, it really started with

noah's ark, back in the late 1970's and it was a very small water park. there was maybe one or two slides, bumper boats, go carts, and then it just grew. it was very organic, it just grew and so many of our properties are like that.

now it's at the point where they are looking for something no one else has. we have so many rides here that no one else in the united states has and sometimes even in the so it's become quite fun to see how they constantly are looking to bring the newest to the area.

>> why wisconsin dells, or how wisconsin dells and talk about this business in this community, what's it like. >> this community has been fabulous for us, and the visitor bureau especially does a beautiful job of promoting our area, so you know, all you have

to do is be here. the people are coming. you know. >> is it seasonal? >> yes and no. our policy is as long as we're home, we're open. >> and you live or in site here. >> we live on site.

>> how many people can you accommodate on a nightly basis? >> right now 13. and we are renovating a 1973argasi travel trailer made by air stream and have a deck across the front, deck across the back and two antique claw foot tubs on the back with a

cabana all the way around it. >> it works so well. i am so happy we stayed put. didn't purchase something else. >> starts training at base camp. rider position looks like this and then we get you out on the line. >> ready?

>> uh-huh. >> talk about where we're at and what happens here. >> ok. we're zip lines here in wisconsin -- bigfoot zip-line in over 6,000 feet of cable. >> and how long does it take, the whole thing.

>> the tour takes about two hours, two and a half hours. >> who comes here, who's your clients? >> our youngest was three years old, our oldest was 90. >> and how big is this plot of land we were on today. >> the plot of land our course

covers is 45 acres. lines, as you saw, go over sasquatch lake, four to six lines across the lake. >> this isn't open all year? >> this is open all year. all winter. >> is that right? >> so what do you put them in in

the winter, like a snowmobile suit? >> it's whatever they want to wear. we have the harness obviously tight on them. >> it was good. it was great fun. >> fabulous.

>> zip-lining. >> it's riply's believe it or not. downtown wisconsin dells. this guy is 9 feet tall. and look at this guy. looks like my uncle walter. hey, uncle. and this is my favorite.

i love the fact that this guy -- it's like, really, come on. here we go. unusual man. eric, the lizard man. >> we are in the water capital of the world, wisconsin dells, and here i sit. how many people come through

here a day? >> anywhere between you know, 5,000 and 10,000. >> who's your clients? >> we do a lot of people in the local area, but madison is a big draw for us as well as minneapolis and the chicagoland area.

>> but we've had people from every state in the union here, including alaska. >> wisconsin dells is known as the the whatter park capital of the world. was this the first one? >> in wisconsin dells, yes. >> and is it the biggest one?

>> it's the biggest one in the country. >> in the country? >> yes, america's largest water park. >> you said that so proudly. i guess you know your facts. >> i want my mom. >> why do you bring your kids to

wisconsin dells? >> it's the best of all world --worlds. they with can run free, have time by themselves, with us, it's refreshing. >> that's the best answer ever. >> this isn't just an hour and a half.

people don't show up at noon and leave by 1:30 p.m. >> no, no. there's too many things to do. >> come on, wisconsin dells. tommy bartlett water show. you've got to be here. we're were jeremy, the water show director.

>> water ski show director. >> and this is your daughter. >> that's my daughter abbey. >> and michelle. that's really great. where are we right now, what body of water is this? >> this is lake del ton. >> and the shows happen every

day? >> every day, 4:30 p.m. and 8:30 p.m., from memorial day to labor day. >> so you're busy? >> we're always busy. >> what can people expect if they show up here. >> you can expect a 45 minute

water ski show and 45 minute variety show, it's all keen fun family entertainment. super entertaining. fantastic show. >> and you could not be raised in this state without knowing the name tommy bartlett. we are the show ski capital of

the world here. most people don't know this. we have more competing water ski teams in the state of wisconsin than the rest of the world combined. >> is that the truth? that's huge. >> ok, jose.

let's talk about what happens >> well, we have a half-hour nature tour, through lost canyon. we give you the history of lost canyon, we have draft horses, of course, that we tell you about them. >> well, guys that was the tour.

thanks for stopping. i hope you enjoyed the ride. >> a little bit of humor. >> why should people come here. >> lost canyon, i believe, is a unique gem, lost in the middle of now hall everything happening >> guys, make sure that your hands are in the wagon.

>> and it's been here since the -- the tour has been here since 1956, but it used to be lost in the woods, now we're kind of lost in everything else around the town, which you know, it's great having that stuff, but it's nice to have something still left, you know, from the

old days. you know, i've had people that remember this from the 1950's, 1960's. >> i bet you do. that's great. >> and would like to see it preserved for few fewer generations.

they always say when they leave the dells, this is one of the best things they see and they recommend this to family and friends. it's a beautiful place. i hope they like it. >> all come back now, ya hear. >> and what kind of fudge will

this be? >> this is plain milk chocolate. we always think is there anybody that hasn't seen fudge being made, but there's a lot of people and that's why we like to do it in the front window so they can watch it and ask questions and sample it of

course. minar and a friend of his went into the candy -- my father and a friend of his went into the candy business together and since 1962 they've been growing and growing and adding flavors. >> what's the best seller? >> plain milk chocolate is still

the biggest seller, but sometimes people like to get a little adventurous and try something new. we do brittles, peanut brit i will, cashew brittle. cashew crunch. >> unbelievable. you have don't look like you

snack on your stuff, jane. >> i eat it all the time. a little goes a long way. >> does it. >> and there's so many different flavors to try, that i really don't get sick of anything. >> we're in downtown dells, at alphabetta karma.

we've been up and down the street. >> we created this wonderful boutique, fashion boutique, featuring footwear and apparel and handbags and cool jewelry. this is a male designer, male artist and do you know that these are orange peels?

we're always looking to add what's the story behind it. in is a people united -- this is a people united and the story behind this, these are women who are learning how to sew and our customers really, really appreciate that as well. >> they love to hear the

stories. >> and we love to share the the design at alpha beta karma is a cross between parissan flea market beats soho boutique. >> talk about the difference between staying in a hotel and staying here, socially, what's it like?

>> well, it's very much -- camping is very much a social experience. >> you need to love people, love your neighbors, love having a campfire. >> love being outside. >> can you name all the ways you can stay here.

>> yeah. popup campers, motor homes, basic one and two camping cab inches, studio, large and up there our deluxe cabin. >> what do people want that i would be surprised at? >> we have wi-fi at every site. >> can i tell you?

i love that. i think that's important. >> you sit around the fire and -- >> come on. so? >> there is a time to chill out, but you still want to be connected.

>> you do. >> nowhere else in the world could you have done what we've done. this is wisconsin dells and it was fun. we are in down down wisconsin dells with the mayor, mayor brian landers.

how are you? >> doing well. >> you know the drill. you have 30 seconds to tell us why wisconsin dells, wisconsin, is the best place in the world to live, work, and play. >> that's it? >> what do you mean that's it?

>> 30 seconds. >> you can start now. >> we have a beautiful downtown as you can see, a famed river walk that you can walk along and see the natural area of the we are the water park capital of the world, we have more water here than any other community

that you can possibly imagine. we've got roller coasters galore, the haunted mansion right across the street. we've got world famous fudge, best restaurants in the world, coming up a nice duck you can get on. not people can get around in and

drive around in a duck. did you mention the water park? >> you mentioned that. >> imagine a mayor who can do it in 30 seconds. >> additional funding for "around the corner" with john mcgivern is provided by the greater milwaukee foundation's

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